It’s a Man’s World, We Women Just live in it:The Koran

In keeping with my updates on my Koran reading, I will report that I soldiered on to the next two surahs, Al-Imran and al-Nisa (The Woman), in order to read the Koran authentically as it was introduced to the world. Per some wise advice, I plan on now reading from the last surah’s first, although in all honesty the two surahs that I just read would be just as hard for me to personally digest later as they were now.

Al-Imran continued with the previous ideas of punishing the wicked and the non-believers. I must admit, a (no doubt blasphemous) thought crossed my mind: God is highly authoritarian, almost like a dictator! Basically, “do as I say or feel my wrath.” Of course, unlike a real dictator, God is “merciful,” as the Koran keeps telling me, and so one can reason with him and be forgiven, but passages like “3:83” where it constantly goes on and on about punishment is somewhat unnerving.

A good line:

“Indeed, you have argued aboutthingsof which you have some knowledge. Must you now argue about that which you know nothing at all?(3:66)

“Al-Nisa” or “The Woman” was a much more interesting (if outraging) chapter, as one can infer simply by it’s title. Again, the Koran proves to me that all those crazy fanatics out there might be following a partial truth about Islam: witness line 4:34:

“Men have superiority over women because god has made the one superior to the other, and because they spend their wealth to maintain them. good women are obedient.”

Again, I will repeat: I’m not sure how any self-respecting woman can read these words and agree with the Koran and Islam. A book that denounces human rights should certainly not be used as the basis of any law (see: Shariah). It then goes on to say that a man can beat a disobedient wife! Now we’re promoting domestic abuse? Absolutely not! I know that one “virtue” of the Koran that Muslims extoll is that it, unlike the Bible or Torah, has not been changed in format or content, in part due to the fact that the original was written in Arabic and thus can still be read by modern people today. However, I think that (like slavery and concubinage before it) it would be great justice and no great sin if people would expunge these words of “superiority over women” and “beat them” out of the Koran. Do you think the millions of Africans or Asians would follow Islam if the book said “White males are superior over Black males or Asian males?” I don’t think so! Thus, women are again swept under the doormat. Stick up for yourselves!

“God wishes to lighten your burdens, for man was created weak.” (Line 4:27)

I can’t help but assume that a book such as the Koran only adds to a persons burdens, as the religious try so hard to be good Muslims!

On a more cheerful, peaceful note: all this talk about gardens with running streams sounds highly delightful (if not out of date with what a modern person might dream of Paradise). I suppose the thought of a stream and lush vegetation while one was living in a dry, stony desert was quite the mirage! Garden of Eden, anyone?

Gardens in Cairo: paradise? (Excuse the poor quality)
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11 thoughts on “It’s a Man’s World, We Women Just live in it:The Koran

  1. Very interesting post. Hard to swallow, in any religion I think. From what I remember of the Bible, been a long time mind you, it pretty much says the same thing about women. 😦 (Blasphemy coming, because men wrote it??)

    Sorry, I am a “Doubting Thomas(ina)”, it is something I struggle with at times. 🙂

  2. Meredith, as I don’t know much about the teaching of Islam, but I have found a Video which can just give you a clear concept of the verse 4:34

    Another Translation of the verse 4:34
    [Surah 4:34] Men are the protectors and maintaine[rs of women, because Allah has given the one more (strength) than the other, and because they support them from their means. Therefore the righteous women are devoutly obedient, and guard in (the husband’s) absence what Allah would have them guard. As to those women on whose part ye fear disloyalty and ill-conduct, admonish them (first), (Next), refuse to share their beds, (And last) beat them (lightly); but if they return to obedience, seek not against them Means (of annoyance): For Allah is Most High, great (above you all).

    1. The translation that men are superior IN STRENGTH and thus protect women I can accept; as long as in no way does superior indicate mindset. I will not, however, ever accept “beat them lightly.” If a woman is disobedient, than it is up to Allah to punish her as he would a man, not her husbands!

      P.S. thank you for the video! 🙂

      1. But what if you love someone and you don’t want her do something thing that is bad for her. how will you stop him, well its up to you.

        Meredith, do start reading it with commentary (actual word Tafsir) so that you can know that what is the purpose of each verse and the things that are not said clearly.

      2. So you condone beating and domestic violence?? :O A person should NEVER lay a hand on another in such an evil manner. And what if the man does something that is bad for him? How is the woman supposed to stop him? Well…..I suppose she could withhold something…..but then she would probably get beaten for being “disobedient.” -_-

        Unfortunately, I don’t have access to a Koran with Tafsir but maybe I can find it online to read after I read the longer chapters.

  3. NO, you got me all wrong, the thing I was trying to convey was that the right that man have that if much necessary he can beat her women lightly. As you said that a man can be wrong, its true and I accept the fact that many mans in the world are beating their wifes badly and its just against Islam. but you cannot just say that Islam do not give rights to women. well for your further assistance I have searched and found few website which is only about women in Islam. hope you can clear your concept of Islam.

    http://www.womeninislam.ws/en/

    http://www.witness-pioneer.org/vil/Books/ZakirNaik/ZakirNaik_GenderIssue.htm

    God Bless you

    1. Ahhh, sorry for misunderstanding! And I do believe that Islam DOES give rights to women, however some things (such as the beating) are wrong. Overall, I feel that Islam (in the Koran context) treats women pretty fairly……..

      And merci beaucoup for those links! Highly interesting 🙂

  4. Meredith, you know french is it right.
    and Those links have all the information about the rights of women in Islam.
    hope you will use them.

  5. I share your indignation. Women should never be beaten by a man. There is no excuse for it, and it amazes me too that so many women believe in this. The Bible does say things about women staying home and listening to their husbands, but it also says a man should cherish and respect his wife. Both man and woman are to obey God, so her status compared to his does not really matter; he is supposed to be good to her anyway. One of the biggest differences between the two religions is that Muslims have made religious beliefs into laws, and Christians have not.

    1. i understand WHY religious beliefs are made into laws–it makes sense, if you believe in a religion and what it says–but it doesn’t work for 2 reasons. One, being that times change and people do too (for example, they DID change the Koran by outlawing slavery, which it didn’t condemn). The Koran is too old to be able to state laws that work with all aspects of modern life. Secondly, unless you live in Saudi Arabia, where everyone is Muslim, you CANNOT put in place a religious law. Hello, talk about discrimination and anti-democracy! A good example is Egypt: how can you possibly put in place Shariah law when 10% of the population is Christian?? Egypt is their home too–they cannot be kicked out, and subjecting them to laws that might go against their own beliefs is wrong.

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